Marxism: Zizek/Peterson: Official Video

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Jordan B Peterson

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I posted this yesterday, but the volume was too low, so now it's been raised.
On February, April 19, 2019, I debated Marxist philosopher Slavoj Zizek in Toronto, April 19 at the Sony Centre. Dr. Zizek is a Slovenian philosopher and professor at the Institute for Sociology and Philosophy at the University of Ljubljana, whose works on cultural studies, psychoanalysis and, above all, for the purposes of our debate, Marxism, are world-renowned. The topic? Happiness: Marxism vs Capitalism. This is the official video. Many bootlegs have already been released, but that seems inevitable given our current state of technological capability.
I started with a critique of The Communist Manifesto, which is the central revolutionary document of the Marxist movement (rather than addressing, say, Zizek's work, which wasn't what the debate was about).
It wasn't so obvious for the rest of the discussion that Marxism, per se, comprised the central topic of discussion.
Watch for yourself.
A good article, I think, on Zizek: www.iep.utm.edu/zizek/#H2

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Komentarai
Alpha Omega
Alpha Omega Prieš 14 minučių
It's not the redistribution of wealth that concerns me as much as the redistribution of arms. "Bloody revolution". This push of firearms prohibition by the left is what keeps me up at night.
ᄒᄒ
ᄒᄒ Prieš val
9:36
velchev1
velchev1 Prieš 2 val
I was hoping to see statements (conclusions) logically debunked and leading to solutions, but it is only wasting energy of smart people.
Luis Alberto Nina
Luis Alberto Nina Prieš 2 val
JBP now understands who is really an intellectual!
paul mitchell
paul mitchell Prieš 5 val
Zizek lumps all Japanese Zen practitioners into a single political entity. Rather inaccurate.
Alexandra
Alexandra Prieš 7 val
CHEM TRAIL GEOENGINEERING IS THE MOST INSANE THING AND MUST STOP.
Alexandra
Alexandra Prieš 7 val
CAPITALISM NEEDS TO CONSIDER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS YES.
Alexandra
Alexandra Prieš 12 val
THE US PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES NEEDS TO BE IN THIS FORMAT
Hickory Dickory
Hickory Dickory Prieš 14 val
Its like Dan Harmon and Mark Hamill performed a fusion dance.
Progressive Politics
Progressive Politics Prieš 16 val
Considering Google is anti-communist (they couldn't even compete in China, so they left), I'm impressed with LTlost for giving this video 3 mil views. Interesting...
C Allwardt
C Allwardt Prieš dieną
Zizek is such a good guy
jay m
jay m Prieš 2 dienas
Dr. Zizek did not talk about communism except to credit China? Seriously? Dr Peterson did specifically about communism and capitalism.
Bob Sagget
Bob Sagget Prieš 2 dienas
Zizek making the classic error of thinking Islam = all religion
Bob Sagget
Bob Sagget Prieš 2 dienas
Tonight on: "Two psychologists discuss economics"...
thru_life
thru_life Prieš 2 dienas
The PROBLEM WITH PETERSONS FANDOM
thru_life
thru_life Prieš 2 dienas
woooooooo
Ike Wood
Ike Wood Prieš 2 dienas
25:30 HAHAHAAHAHA😭
Dave Slide
Dave Slide Prieš 2 dienas
the audience needs placing in a gulag.
Nice Nice
Nice Nice Prieš 2 dienas
Why does the introducer look like dave rubin and sam harrris combine
C Allwardt
C Allwardt Prieš 2 dienas
Debate Richard Wolff
Blake
Blake Prieš 2 dienas
JP why would u upload this do you have a humiliation kink?
Blake
Blake Prieš 2 dienas
@salem Mohammed showed up to a gunfight with a rubber band
salem Mohammed
salem Mohammed Prieš 2 dienas
Why I'm still watching the debate what happened?!
Gnarly-Cola
Gnarly-Cola Prieš 2 dienas
Wow Mark Hamill is super smart
The Aubad
The Aubad Prieš 3 dienas
Ok zizek. If the ccp of China is a great system. Would you feel the same if your children where arrested and awaiting to be used for live organ harvesting? Also zizek are you high on Cocain?
The Aubad
The Aubad Prieš 3 dienas
Anyone ever notice all Marxist hate the Bible and jews? Why? I find the basic laws of the Bible are good to live by. But without them laws. What then? Is it OK if 5 men rape zizek? Why not?
Pedro Nunes
Pedro Nunes Prieš 3 dienas
25:40 the fools are always the first to mock others. Besides that little moment it was fascinating and gave me a sense of hope.
Negar N
Negar N Prieš 3 dienas
why are they laughing? i dont get the audience
edoardo gianfagna
edoardo gianfagna Prieš 3 dienas
Veramente molto interessante!
حارث يزن Hareth
حارث يزن Hareth Prieš 3 dienas
i see that the difference between the three(the rich , the middle class, the poor) should be 50%
Parmesan Beagle
Parmesan Beagle Prieš 4 dienas
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
Peter Tierno
Peter Tierno Prieš 4 dienas
Zizek's comparison regarding french cuisine sounds like marxist history. It failed before so lets change the name and sell it as a success.
Salta Pioggia
Salta Pioggia Prieš 4 dienas
i hate this. someone make zizek take ADD meds or something, this wasn't a discussion, this was one guy trying to engage in debate and another senselessly picking up scattered papers and reading the first sentences off them. i wonder why the moderator didn't even dare correct zizek on the time, and why zizek thought more about giving a performance than defending or even comprehensively stating his thesis statement. theyre both brilliant minds, but this was such a shitty watch and really im frustrated for peterson, he was ready to have a discussion but what he got was a frankensteined script of a debate partner
Arya
Arya Prieš 4 dienas
Somebody please morph this into the most epic anime that would ever be made in the history of humankind.
Andrew
Andrew Prieš 4 dienas
Its pretty clear at Zizek's 1st 10 minute rebuttal is when the stimulant started kicking in. 🥳🤓
Loco American
Loco American Prieš 4 dienas
This video aged well, now biden is going full communist after stealing the presidency
حارث يزن Hareth
حارث يزن Hareth Prieš 4 dienas
it is good for the poor that the rich be richer , because the rich when he gets richer he opens new companies then the middle class will have more jobs then the poor gets more richer when the middle classes and the rich give him some of that money as charity , and may be the poor takes the old place of the middle class
حارث يزن Hareth
حارث يزن Hareth Prieš 4 dienas
marx look was not western white look , thats one of the sources of his silly marxism
حارث يزن Hareth
حارث يزن Hareth Prieš 4 dienas
life problems are combinated of multiple endlless things , like religions ,knowledge , beauty , money , it is silly to put it all in the money problem
john smith
john smith Prieš 4 dienas
I always imagine Zizek is eating peanut butter anytime hes off screen
nope nope
nope nope Prieš 4 dienas
The antithesis between them 2 is so fucking poetic: One acts precessional-intelectual on the suit the other is a mad genious with cajual clothes. One is a clinical sciences based psychologyst the other is specialised in psychoanalysis. One is very stern and direct in his belief the other is very open and ambiguous One uses a Microsoft laptop the other uses paper
nope nope
nope nope Prieš 3 dienas
@faison gache oh yeah. I don't know why i saw the apple logo instead
faison gache
faison gache Prieš 3 dienas
"One uses an apple the other uses paper" = Microsoft not Apple.
TOMEK POLSKAdoBOJU
TOMEK POLSKAdoBOJU Prieš 4 dienas
Starts at 15:15. You're welcome. I just saved you 15 minutes...
t d
t d Prieš 4 dienas
Probably better to just watch this on mute with captions
Rita S
Rita S Prieš 4 dienas
Tyranny of proletariat! Exactly what happened in my country. Then we were persecuted. Then we fled to the USA, and here we are. Holly crap! I can’t believe this garbage is well and thriving in our universities.
Aaron Barlow
Aaron Barlow Prieš 4 dienas
Global warming is a deep state scam. ALL the evidence shows that CO2, in particular human CO2 has very little effect on climate.
Aaron Barlow
Aaron Barlow Prieš 4 dienas
A good debate between Peterson and Dracula.
v twin
v twin Prieš 4 dienas
I had to get some perspex to put against my tv screen. This dude was spitting all over my carpet. "Sufferin' succotash!"
K J
K J Prieš 4 dienas
Zizek needs a bib for all that spit coming out.
Crazy Goat
Crazy Goat Prieš 5 dienų
they should put this debate on ItaliaUno in Italian !
T
T Prieš 5 dienų
Imagine if Peterson had been married 4 times and his current wife was 30 years younger than him....he would've been cancelled a long time ago.
T
T Prieš 5 dienų
The Slovenian Jeff Daniels
John Gil
John Gil Prieš 5 dienų
Zizek is a class A Intelligent Idiot
Pigrulerperson
Pigrulerperson Prieš 2 val
Peterson literally used the fucking manifesto lmao
Mario G
Mario G Prieš 4 dienas
I didn’t understand wat he believes at all.
Damian Damianio
Damian Damianio Prieš 5 dienų
i always listen to jordan peterson, but zizek took the stage
joejjohnston
joejjohnston Prieš 5 dienų
I find something terribly moving about this. Two great men, discussing serious notions of human existence for everyone across the globe to hear. What a time to be alive really.
David Edwards
David Edwards Prieš 5 dienų
Two geniuses who don't know that forests are not the same as tree plantations.
hybridarmy777
hybridarmy777 Prieš 5 dienų
Ah the irony that there were scalped tickets at the debate between "capitalism and marxism"
Erik Brezovec
Erik Brezovec Prieš 5 dienų
The real winner of the debate is the one who learns from it. But if we leave this a side, Zizek destroyed Peterson's arguments which were oversimplification of Marx and his philosophy.
Tango Kaleidos
Tango Kaleidos Prieš 2 val
@Karl I can agree mostly with what you say. I think Jordan based his argument on the mainstream perception of communism. Didn't everyone in the history of communism misunderstand Marx? Isn't that the problem with communism? What guarantee do we have that anyone in power that promotes communism will ever understand Marx? I think Sophistry plays either a small or large part in most debates.
Karl
Karl Prieš dieną
@Tango Kaleidos Peterson may be better in expressing his arguements, but he ABSOLUTLY misunderstood Marx, sometimes even intentionally. I wont pronuonce a winner, that's a) not what the debate is about and b) not possible because these are 2 fundamental different viewpoints that BOTH are valid.
Mario G
Mario G Prieš 4 dienas
@Erik Brezovec but Zizek has called himself a Marxist. And the tickets say Marxism vs capitalism. I’m not sure if it’s the English but I definitely feel like most people walked away from this debate not understanding Zizek. People say scientists are terrible philosophers. I think that’s wrong and I think philosophers have terrible science. Like almost none. I also thought that part of philosophy (as well as science) is abstraction. Zizek does want to abstract anything. It looks like the only way you can be a Marxist to him is if you say you are while holding the manifesto. That there isn’t underlying philosophy in the book that is terrible. Like a human can be anything? That’s scientifically falsifiable. Now I will grant that Marx has a nice critique of capitalism. But the antidote is flat out wrong. That’s why Peterson was so confused. Zizek and Peterson put this whole thing together around Marxism and Zizek is apparently not a Marxist? How does that even happen? It was a mess and this debate for the most part was ignored because nothing was done and the whole debate wasn’t even really on topic.
Erik Brezovec
Erik Brezovec Prieš 4 dienas
​@Tango Kaleidos how do one not understand Peterson's lack of knowledge in the basic philosophy - first of all Hegel, then Marx? I know his background and his work, but in this specific argument he entered with the dogmatic not scientific view of Marxism. He was talking about ideology which is really lay level of argumentation. A deepness of a thought was really primal from him, while Žižek (whom we could criticize on his own account) has been Hegelian in the full sense of the word. Now, regarding your comment, it is purely Peterson's style that u adapt in your comment - in lack of a valid argument against my opinion, You simply say that I do not understand him. Explain it to me then and make an counterargument.
Tango Kaleidos
Tango Kaleidos Prieš 5 dienų
that's only because you don't understand Jordan Peterson's argument clearly. I'm not interested in a winner but Jordan explained himself much better than Zizek in this particular debate.
Acct Admin
Acct Admin Prieš 5 dienų
this was no debate. it was a pretty good lecture though. the audience was a distraction
Chris Pedersen
Chris Pedersen Prieš 5 dienų
90 minutes in and absolutely loving this exchange, but it's not so much about Marxism. I wish I would have heard more from Zizek on this, can't help but feel a little underwhelmed even though the discussion is great.
Nathan Blizard
Nathan Blizard Prieš 5 dienų
This public debate goes beyond advocating for the generosity of the hunger of the audience, to be fortunate enough to know that generosity is the force behind this "Star Wars" like battle.
Orphan of Kos
Orphan of Kos Prieš 5 dienų
i cant even listen to zizek talk with that aggresive lisp
Diska Kurniawan
Diska Kurniawan Prieš 5 dienų
First time I watch this, im high af on weed, it changed my political view. Now I'm sober and it can still changes my political view. What a nice debate. What's not nice is the audience tho.
Kirby Quinn
Kirby Quinn Prieš 5 dienų
comments extra gay on this one
Perc Saturn
Perc Saturn Prieš 5 dienų
Tl;Dw Peterson won
dedosdigital
dedosdigital Prieš 5 dienų
Slobbov Sneezek
guy
guy Prieš 5 dienų
Only good points were made for the entirety of the conversation. Interesting the hecklers had nothing to object to once the conversation actually got interesting, when they could directly respond in real time. They should do some podcasts.
Adiebob
Adiebob Prieš 5 dienų
“Thus Heaven I’ve forfeited, I know it full well…My soul, once true to God, is chosen for Hell.” -Karl Marx, The Pale Maiden
RooTcas
RooTcas Prieš 6 dienų
Best 2 people on the planet
Cats 2079
Cats 2079 Prieš 6 dienų
Very confused why peterson is talking about happiness.... His entire worldview is opposed to it.
DoomLegion83
DoomLegion83 Prieš 6 dienų
This is typically leftist marxist tactic: tell me one, name me this, it is dumb to even answer to this. Kill off the discussion at this point.
DoomLegion83
DoomLegion83 Prieš 6 dienų
Zizek is wrong in "the will to change society". They have the will. And its not to be made up on one person, its about the "culture". Zizek is a downtalking idiot and he discredits himself. its horrible to listen to him in the questions section.
19UME026 Aniket Biswas
19UME026 Aniket Biswas Prieš 6 dienų
1:51:00
Robert Zheng
Robert Zheng Prieš 6 dienų
The teeny-tiny lathe intralysosomally pretend because camel aboaly return past a crabby drug. fresh, numerous mexico
Marius Oană
Marius Oană Prieš 6 dienų
The Slovenian is improperly dressed for such an event, his socks are way too short, his English does not suit his intellectual magnitude...
Scepter
Scepter Prieš 6 dienų
15:15
gvss sudheer
gvss sudheer Prieš 6 dienų
How is happiness a product of action? Isn't it action itself bondage? Also, isn't one is happy in deep sleep needing nothing? Then how is deep sleep which is abode of happiness, a state of action? In Indian Philosophy called Purva Mimamsa ( Philosophy of action), this is considered. And refuted strongly in the Bhagavad Gita. Please do read Chapter 3 of Gita along with Shankaracharya commentary.
bigD bob
bigD bob Prieš 6 dienų
Zizek doing Soo much coke, his nose is constantly running
IAm Heck
IAm Heck Prieš 6 dienų
Zizek pretty based tho
boohacker
boohacker Prieš 6 dienų
Two very smart men. If you want confirmation that communism could work you won't find it here...
Mark Smith
Mark Smith Prieš 6 dienų
Zizeks praise of China is looking a bit suspect now. Loved this talk though.
GabeDoesThings
GabeDoesThings Prieš 5 dienų
He says in the debate itself that he doesn't praise China... You may want to rewatch the second half
JakeDotCom
JakeDotCom Prieš 6 dienų
Was not expecting Zizek to get up for his opening statement and unironically say both that communist countries are worse polluters than capitalists and that Chem trails are a massive threat to humanity 😂
Praveen Sharma
Praveen Sharma Prieš 6 dienų
Near-genius conversation.
Outdoor Escapades
Outdoor Escapades Prieš 6 dienų
Jordan! My good man. Please, if you haven’t already, read more into Platonism and Neo-Platonism. These ethics you are recognizing in Judeo-Christianity stem from the Platonic tradition. Any grain of goodness within the Bible is ripped off from so-called “pagans”. This is why you see such a stark difference between the doctrine of the OT and NT. Whereas the OT talks about a chosen people and the ordering of them to slay all whom they come across: “I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.” Exodus 23:27 The NT takes a more “god is love” approach and talks of the need to liken ourselves unto the Good as much as possible before death.
Lasse
Lasse Prieš 7 dienų
Asberger, Tourette ... nice discussion
James T
James T Prieš 7 dienų
Is zizek talking through a walkie talkie?
Aaron Beauchamp
Aaron Beauchamp Prieš 7 dienų
Isn't "Marxist Philosopher" an oxy moron? My experience is "ideologue" should come right after Marxist.....at least that applies to 99% of the ones I've debated with. "Capitalism is tyrannical. Marxism offers equality and is merciful and just......never mind the 10's of millions of people who suffered and died while this "theory" was being tested out.........that's not Marx's fault!" That's pretty much the crux of my experience with Marxists.
Post Deliberately
Post Deliberately Prieš 6 dienų
@Aaron Beauchamp: Have you read both volumes of Marx’s Das Kapital? Marx was heavily influence by Hegel. So maybe also check out Hegel’s Phänomenologie des Geistes. Hegel is considered to be a significant philosopher in the western canon. If you have read these books and still find Marx to be shallow, then okay. Marx can have depth to him and still be wrong or worthless, but most people think it was just the Manifesto and that’s it. I am a trained philosopher - as in I have a PhD in philosophy and teach it at the university level. And in order to understand Marx, one needs to understand Hegel, and Hegel is no easy pill to swallow. And Zizek is not a devotee of Marx, he is an expert on Marx’s theory. Das Kapital is over 2,000 pages. Either way, to each one’s own. Take care!
Aaron Beauchamp
Aaron Beauchamp Prieš 7 dienų
@Post Deliberately I've never called myself a philosopher, but I can be philosophical when required. Examining Marxism led me to see that the theory was not deeply thought out ( in regards to its real validity and usefulness). I would go so far to say it's completely oblivious to every day reality. Aren't philosophers, by nature, deep thinkers? Point? The majority of Marxists I have encountered seem to not have examined their beliefs very deeply......most of what I get are common slogans and regurgitated rhetoric. So my point stands....."philosopher" is not an apt descriptor. "Ideologue" works much better. Anybody who truly examines the tenets of Marxism - with intellectual honesty - will see what an utter load of crap it is, and not worth exerting any more intellectual energy to it.
Post Deliberately
Post Deliberately Prieš 7 dienų
Zizek is a philosopher who is one of the premiere experts of Marxist theory or Marxism. Marxist philosopher is another way of saying a philosopher of Marxism. A Kantian philosopher is not one who believes everything Kant says to be true but a philosopher of Kant.
sam b1t
sam b1t Prieš 7 dienų
Can someone tell me the name of the book Zizek references at 2:16:48
ekardnamable
ekardnamable Prieš 5 dienų
Orthodoxy by GK Chesterton
Outdoor Escapades
Outdoor Escapades Prieš 7 dienų
I think it is rubbish how they talk about Christ’s moment of atheism on the cross. The supposed son of GOD doubts the divine due to his mortal suffering? That doesn’t sound like a truly divine being. Socrates went out in a more inspiring manner. Yes, he wasn’t tortured, but he was condemned on the basis of false judgement, just like christ, and right before his death he gave a lecture on the immortality of the soul and how he was not afraid to die because it wasn’t the death of his soul, but only the thing which encumbers and traps his soul. The Bible is follicle in so many ways, and the words of the ancient sages are far more inspiring than those found in that book of the vengeful, wrathful, and jealous “god”.
Dani the Mayqueen
Dani the Mayqueen Prieš 7 dienų
Imagine taking Peterson serious after this.
Oli Lacey
Oli Lacey Prieš 7 dienų
Whys that?
Christopher Meisner
Christopher Meisner Prieš 7 dienų
Peterson - Deconstructs, analyzes, contemplates, criticizes, respects and answers. Zizek - Pouts and calls for "revolution" What a pompous jerk.
schmiddes Werban
schmiddes Werban Prieš 7 dienų
Peterson: doesn't even read one volume of Marxist theory -gets on stage demanding entry fee for a debate on the topic. Peterson is a pseudointerlectual conman. A conspiracy theorist vomiting his monocausal patterns of "explaination" into every face he finds. If you can watch this debate and think that he is an honest player you can't be helped.
ekardnamable
ekardnamable Prieš 7 dienų
Was very impressed with Zizek's critique toward the very end of the debate of Peterson's emphasis on putting one's own house in order, viz that what seems like a simple matter of individual conscience may yet be determined by ideology. The point about Suzuki and Japanese imperialism, and Himmler's devotion to the Baghavad Gita gave me pause. One of the few direct responses in the debate, and in the context of Peterson rehearsing his strongest material.
Cristoffer
Cristoffer Prieš 8 dienų
And now with the Covid 19 and the shut downs, and vaccines. Perhaps, try and see if the medication for astma, Pulmicort, if that have a positive result on people with Sars Cov2 that causes Covid 19. And let's see if some will blaim any breakdowns in the economy on Covid 19. And remeber the word Saturation, debt saturation.
Cristoffer
Cristoffer Prieš 8 dienų
It would have been interesting if some of them, Mr Peterson or Zizek, had mentioned Fractional Reserve Banking. Also if Zizek could have explained what the word Anti Semitism really means. And who created it and why, for example. Who are you supposed to be anti, and why? Also, who gave Theodor Herzl some money, and the wrtings of Theodor Herzl. Another thing, regarding refugees and so called populist, are all migrant movements/refugee movements natural? It would also have been good to mention that wall street, and others, helped finance the revolution in Russia, and also the National Socialists in Germany. Was that for ideological reasons perhaps? Then the knife in the back. Then money from Russia, after the revolution, wnt through Estonia and Sweden and then to Wall Street, City of London... Telecom infrastructure is important, without that you can't transfer money for example, and the military and intelligence services like the former KGB, Gestapo or the CIA...CIA yes, needs it, aswell as the FBI. Who controls the Telecom infrastructure in many countries around the world? And is it so maybe, that Israel custom/takes toll on goods from example Africa that is transported that way into the Middle East/Eurasia. Who wanted the so called Jewish state to be placed exactly there... Also, did Ben Gurion have some owners interest in the bank that helped building some labour/internation camps? Either he did, or he did not. What Evacuation where the politicians talking about in Germany, evacuation. How come that so called hasidic jews in Israel say that the others are not jews, could that be classified as anti semitism too, btw? Does control of natural resources, general means of payment and the flow of natural resources, that needs a telecom infrastructure too, matter? Could some nations perhaos have wanted to be in control of that themselves, not letting for example a private interest control it for them? Knife in the back again...
JP Ruiz
JP Ruiz Prieš 8 dienų
It's actually really fitting that Peterson has only read Manifesto at two points in his life, when he was 18 and to prepare for this debate. Goes to show how little attention he really paid to the words in front of him; when he basically says that "Marx say proletariat good and bourgeoisie bad and that's a lil' simple dontcha think????" and his fans clap, I wanted to open up my Manifesto on the section about the bourgeoisie's revolutionary character and lob it at my computer screen. I guess that's what happens when you're convinced Marxism is when college students don't want to get a job or something.
Dan LaDue
Dan LaDue Prieš 5 dienų
Indubitably. And I believe we should be able to keep the fruits of our creation, whatever that may be. His theory inherently sacrifices that to the collective. That's why I love this onset of NFT culture because I think we will see artists finally relish in a way they can maintain capitalistic autonomy over how they monetize their art, it's the verge of a big libertarian renaissance. Thanks for the talk.
Post Deliberately
Post Deliberately Prieš 5 dienų
@Dan LaDue: The ontological being of the human being for Marx is that of a creative being. Humans create by nature. The will to control our creative endeavors - or products - has been usurped from us. I am not defending, nor do I defend Marx, that was just some food for thought. His dialectic materialism is informed by Hegel (other food for thought). You are right; he did not own a business ever. You need to be commended for tackling this endeavor so quickly! Be well.
Dan LaDue
Dan LaDue Prieš 5 dienų
@Post Deliberately And appreciate that you wren't antagonistic as well. i'm here for healthy discussion. Too many people talking about at the audience lol.
Dan LaDue
Dan LaDue Prieš 5 dienų
@Post Deliberately there's an ebook. few pages into it and already he basically admitted people who try to claim things like health care/housing is a human right are wrong because they are commodities that exist outside of people. and his argument for trade leaves out human's free will to work on a sliding scale, and take different prices because different commodities have different personal value - demand fluctuates. He lived in a utopian world of perfect absolutes not the wonderfully grey area that is the free market. i'm sure he goes more in depth on these but Marx just sounds like someone who never ran his own business. it's a nice theory but in the real world it doesn't work. too many examples of a command economy failing under too much govt red tape. he puts too much value in the creation labor, his definition of a useful article doesn't factor in marketing, transport, clerical and administrative work, development costs, benefit costs, business loans, etc. Every piece contributes and impacts price, the laborer is only one replaceable part of that process. Some people work better and faster than others and deserve better pay. The laborer should have the ability to negotiate a fair trade for their services. "the value of a commodity would remain constant if the labor time remained constant" no because humans have free will to make better trades when possible.
Post Deliberately
Post Deliberately Prieš 5 dienų
@Dan LaDue: No problem...thank you for not being a typical youtube commenter and replying with a combative or disparaging remark. So refreshing. And good luck on Das Kapital! It is a beast of a text, but worthy reading even if one does not agree with it.
noah wiley
noah wiley Prieš 8 dienų
Bro Jordan Peterson is such an idiot humans used to shit in their drinking water in the Paleolithic age too that don’t mean it’s human nature
noah wiley
noah wiley Prieš 8 dienų
If Jordan Peterson was alive in 1840 he would’ve said that we should have slaves because it’s human nature we’ve always had slaves it just a reality of humanity and it helps keep us going
E Pang
E Pang Prieš 8 dienų
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Matt Jarvie
Matt Jarvie Prieš 7 dienų
The ergot of the day is the Bisquick of the night.
Marek Nosek
Marek Nosek Prieš 9 dienų
Zizek is a form of crappy communist! Trying to make his bones on Jordan Peterson's back.
Mary Owens
Mary Owens Prieš 9 dienų
Praising Chinese communist party has not aged well.
František Jabůrek
František Jabůrek Prieš 9 dienų
im still salty it was not a rap battle >:(
Socrates
Socrates Prieš 9 dienų
This was amazing !!!
Ryd Scheer
Ryd Scheer Prieš 9 dienų
The splendid numeric holly blush because bucket ordinarily refuse pace a bloody level. innate, perfect dredger
I-am-Veritas
I-am-Veritas Prieš 9 dienų
*Fun Fact: The UN Charter is almost identical to the Communist Manifesto.* Please look up both and compare.
dedosdigital
dedosdigital Prieš 5 dienų
A difference , the Manifesto's god is Marx , the UN's Lucifer .
I-am-Veritas
I-am-Veritas Prieš 9 dienų
If Zizek and his Marxist "comrades" had their way most of the people reading this would be killed. Evil does not exist in nature besides in the hearts of people like Zizek and fellow Marxists. How could any actual sane person defend and suggest Marxist Communism as a good thing? Absolutely mind boggling. Karl Marx was a mean disgusting racist responsible for some of the most atrocious acts committed by and onto human beings in recorded history.
Felix Garcia
Felix Garcia Prieš 8 dienų
Educate yourself or at least watch the video unbiased
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