Presidential BEEF, Difference of Light Technology

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President's Speech From Sep 2019: ltlost.info/put/vaizdo-ra-as/hJeeqM9op6qbeco
Light Color Temperature: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature
New LED Phosphor, Light Research Center: www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/nlpip/lightinganswers/led/whiteLight.asp
On touching the Halogen Light: www.lightingcompany.co.uk/is-it-true-you-should-not-touch-halogen-capsule-bulbs-with-your-fingers-i98
A Report on Cold Street Lights resulting in low visibility: ltlost.info/put/vaizdo-ra-as/o4h9k8BteJTSi8Y
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ElectroBOOM
ElectroBOOM Prieš metus
This is NOT A POLITICAL VIDEO!!! I'm a simple man... Also regarding Halogen light bulbs, it seems in countries with 240VAC they are designed such that their life is same or better than incandescent. In 120V of north America almost all I can see for halogen is half the life of incandescent for same power rating (make sure lamps run on same voltage and light output when comparing). In any case, I filled my table per my local values for my lamps, and some per my taste. you can always adjust the table values to your local numbers and taste and recalculate. LED still will get top point. and who cares if halogen scores a bit higher WHEN LED IS WAY HIGHER ANYWAY! and remember... THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL VIDEO!
MattitYahu Ben Tzur
MattitYahu Ben Tzur Prieš 10 dienų
I got a bag full of lights for free; so, I use those.
Tedasaurus rex
Tedasaurus rex Prieš mėn
as a reptile owner not being able to purchase halogen bulbs makes it very very hard for me. Because I can't purchase them where I live. I need the heat production of traditional incandescent bulbs to actually keep some of them.
life mantra's
life mantra's Prieš mėn
You r not a simple man U r hero for everyone ☺️
Bryan Hensley
Bryan Hensley Prieš mėn
Fun fact, in the winter regular light bulbs used inside the living area are 100 percent efficient. Sorry BOOM. I think you'll catch on to what I just said..
Bryan Hensley
Bryan Hensley Prieš mėn
Fun fact. In the winter
ilerien
ilerien Prieš dieną
Spasmef
Luci 6669
Luci 6669 Prieš dieną
Lmao isn't that the orange guy who asked a medical advisor if injecting disinfectant would treat covid. Ofc you do the opposite of what he says
Burtlederp Inc.
Burtlederp Inc. Prieš dieną
i love this man
Treeman001
Treeman001 Prieš 2 dienas
Cfl lights give me head aches for some reason I don’t like them
Austin Hoffman
Austin Hoffman Prieš 5 dienų
I like CFL
Ali Shahzad
Ali Shahzad Prieš 6 dienų
The only guy on whose videos I never skip😂😂😂😂. Mr. Full Bridge Rectifier😂😂😂😂😂
Nick Wallette
Nick Wallette Prieš 6 dienų
Agree that LED is getting dangerously close to the perfect bulb. BUT! I think there are a few use-cases for incandescent, still. Or at least some points in its favor: 1) Power factor. It's 1.0. 2) The materials list is entirely benign, from an environmental standpoint. 3) Show me one LED bulb that lasted 15k hours, and I'll show you a lighting manufacturer that went out of business. Let's see a study of the REAL life expectancy. (I'm sure it's still better, but not 15x better.) 4) Try installing that LED bulb in the light socket inside your oven. 5) Do you use electric heat? Incandescent bulbs are heaters with a side-effect of light. 100% efficiency!
The LinuxBoy /Security
The LinuxBoy /Security Prieš 7 dienų
The most surprising thing about this guy is that he's still alive
Skyclad
Skyclad Prieš 8 dienų
Only problem i have with LED is the flicker.
Виталий Орленко
Виталий Орленко Prieš 8 dienų
Про 15 тыс часов ты расскажи, блин Год проработала - уже счастье
James Proffitt
James Proffitt Prieš 9 dienų
Great for growing pot
*IOETER*
*IOETER* Prieš 10 dienų
1 year ago time passes so fast
Aditya
Aditya Prieš 10 dienų
Exactly a year ago this video was posted wow
Dwonis
Dwonis Prieš 11 dienų
That scoring methodology is PURE SCIENCE, clearly! lol
anwar dada
anwar dada Prieš 11 dienų
😅 like
majed 102
majed 102 Prieš 11 dienų
it is a political video
Gabriel San
Gabriel San Prieš 11 dienų
14:37 the only exception to this are Class A or Class A/B Amplifiers (it doesn't matter if it's Vaccum Tube driven or Transistor driven) for Hi-Fi audio, these two knock out any energy-efficient Class D Amplifier in sound quality. PS: excelent video anyway.
James Harding
James Harding Prieš 12 dienų
Whether or not you liked Trump, he was right about at least one thing. CFL's are awful. Reject CFL. Embrace LED.
gabe buthmann
gabe buthmann Prieš 13 dienų
Color temperature is a little different then he explains. Its based on how stars are colored, so red and yellow is actually cold color temperature, while blue is warmer on the color temp spectrum
Petch85
Petch85 Prieš 13 dienų
How dos a CRI 80, 95, 97 LED look like with that nice tool?
NorthWest Living
NorthWest Living Prieš 14 dienų
Too funny.
Chris Goodluck
Chris Goodluck Prieš 14 dienų
I much prefer the bluer light of the higher K ranges. My favourite part of my LED bulbs is I can get rid of the awful yellow glow of regular bulbs (and the ability to use smart home devices with them). I do not run a butchery or morgue though.
Eric Tauvette
Eric Tauvette Prieš 15 dienų
I want to see this guy do a comparizon between HPS light (High Preshure sodium) VS LED grow lights. every thing from power consumption, watt out put, runnig cost (monthly ish) or $ per kwh, watt efficiency fluorecent and metal highlide =35% watt per lumen, LED= 30% watt/lumen and HPS 40% Watt?/lumen . the growing aspect is not for this chanelle i get that and i dont want to see him grow but i want to see him bust the led is better then hps Myth (hint: hps better) the myth is that comparable led to hps are equall from my expirience its not you need 2X to 3X more LED then HPS (1000W HPS = 3000W LED ish) using that math when you start staking lights (LED)your going to be more $ per month then HPS.
zetnakatel
zetnakatel Prieš 16 dienų
what about HPS or MHL ?
Mr courgette
Mr courgette Prieš 17 dienų
The uv emitted by cfl lights is nothing compared to the sun light.
Tanvir Hasan Monir
Tanvir Hasan Monir Prieš 19 dienų
Mind blowing explanation 😍😍
Virgil Iordache
Virgil Iordache Prieš 19 dienų
In Romania, the price of LED bulbs is 10 times higher than incandescent bulbs and comparable lifespan.
Sam
Sam Prieš 21 dieną
You just proved incandescent is better. Spectrum, cost, dimmability, variety of models/size/power. Daylight LED bulbs complement daylight the best (powerful, low consumption, no heat, correct CT), but at night, incandescent wins hands down.
Pi Cubing Official
Pi Cubing Official Prieš 16 dienų
Led is more efficient, cheaper, more durable, comes in a lot of colour temperatures, comes in all sorts of shapes an sizes some are even smart.
Charter
Charter Prieš 21 dieną
I hate the EU for banning normal light bulbs. And pushing these shitty CFL lights. Especially the latter. Also normal light bulbs have a nice warmth to them. Infrared is something we can feel. But if it's just for light, LED. >Save the planet Oh no... you're one of those...
Charter
Charter Prieš 3 dienas
@WHATTHEFUCKEIDOS You aren't saving anything, it's a hypocritical slogan for green consumerism.
WHATTHEFUCKEIDOS
WHATTHEFUCKEIDOS Prieš 3 dienas
What's bad about wanting to save the planet lol, he's advocating for better light bulbs
Chris Cox
Chris Cox Prieš 22 dienas
Because of this video, I've replaced all my CFL bulbs with LED. I can't believe how hard it is to find WARM white bulbs... it seems everybody wants cool white. Why? Are Australians all corpses?
John King
John King Prieš 24 dienas
The CFL was lauded as the answer to energy saving - it was not. The actual answer is the LED. The BEV is lauded as the answer to exhaust emissions - its not. The actyal answer is hydrogen.
Henrik Agven
Henrik Agven Prieš 26 dienų
witch is best to produce in terms of green production, how is it that the abunden burning cole mines has no effect on your light ore electricity consomption and even if we shot our light completly fore the rest of our lifes its the cole mines that they left burning messing things upp and the cole industry is trying to fix it with the led lights .. not so green to produse.. like wind and sun power..ore cole..
Henrik Agven
Henrik Agven Prieš 26 dienų
witch is the best to recycle ...
Adam Dobias
Adam Dobias Prieš 26 dienų
still the fluorescent lamps are my favourite
Khatharr Malkavian
Khatharr Malkavian Prieš 28 dienų
Congratulations, you correctly interpreted Trump's gibberish instead of just assuming he was sending coded psychic signals to invisible nazis.
djdrocco
djdrocco Prieš 29 dienų
I prefer the light from halogen bulbs to all the LEDs I've used, but I still don't use them. They just get too hot and fail quickly.
Phoenix
Phoenix Prieš mėn
Windows XP I appreciate that
DR.NEGA
DR.NEGA Prieš mėn
good thing he lost ...everyone was laughing from president joke with light technology that save lot of money when people don't care what tech behind...they only care it use low wattage so they can pay their low powerbill..4w is great ..cause LEDS are efficient and brighter when work as a group..
Jes.e B.
Jes.e B. Prieš mėn
An extremely intelligent analysis!! However.. What does adding embodied energy do to your table.. Actually you could combine this as energy to manufacture plus energy used over the expected life of the bulb (which still seems to be a slight fib in my opinion but that may just be a holdover from the introduction to both CFL and LED bulbs where it's generally the electronics which failed from the heat or dimming and they WERE terrible.) On a related rant.. There is no reason for a flashlight to not last 50 years now but the manufactures have found ways to make all but the most expensive ones fail in other ways.
Eduardo Sosa
Eduardo Sosa Prieš mėn
2:36 Halogen Bulb. They’re used in cars as well.
Triston Murdock
Triston Murdock Prieš mėn
2:52 *science intensifies*
Suspended From.
Suspended From. Prieš mėn
I miss trump's jokes now
ShadowoftheDude
ShadowoftheDude Prieš mėn
So THAT’S why I needed to wear sunglasses inside my school. Damn fluorescent UV rays…
PongoXBongo
PongoXBongo Prieš 12 dienų
That or it's to normalize vampirism.
D. Gergely
D. Gergely Prieš mėn
entertainment at it's best.
mibjt
mibjt Prieš mėn
Ikea LED bulbs. Made in china
gamingSlasher
gamingSlasher Prieš mėn
Good luck getting 15 000 h from a LED light. They last exactly as long as the incandescents used to. Planned obsolescence anyone?
terrablade boss
terrablade boss Prieš mėn
@ElevatorMan5482 ElevExperiencing Productions is this a flex?
ElevatorMan5482 ElevExperiencing Productions
ElevatorMan5482 ElevExperiencing Productions Prieš mėn
So far I've upgraded our entire 4,000 square foot house to all LEDs a couple years ago and of over 40 LEDs, we've only lost a couple since. Even LED traffic lights in my area have lasted over 10 years without them being replaced.
terrablade boss
terrablade boss Prieš mėn
no
Charles Murphy
Charles Murphy Prieš mėn
I don’t like LED light bulbs. The light is harsh and they don’t last.
Rodder
Rodder Prieš mėn
6:58 Windows XP in 2020? I mean it is OK, but damn.. rare
Pi Cubing Official
Pi Cubing Official Prieš 16 dienų
It's not ok.
Yusuf Maulana
Yusuf Maulana Prieš mėn
Dang I still use incandescent bulb for warming my incubator and little chick. I think it still efficient enough for heater but not for lighting.
David Mack
David Mack Prieš mėn
The best opinions come with math.
Mel F
Mel F Prieš mėn
you ask regular people to change to led bulbs yes I agree but what about every light bulb through the world used on road lighting street lighting public hospitals traffic lights +++ they waste more energy than the public but they use OUR MONEY to do it.
Electro Insanity
Electro Insanity Prieš mėn
Halogen bulbs are good for cold days They're like solid state heaters Well the 1000 watt ones are
Adamohm
Adamohm Prieš mėn
Butcher shops actually prefer to use warm white lights in their display cases to give the meats more color and therefore seem fresher.
life mantra's
life mantra's Prieš mėn
You r not a simple man U r hero for everyone ☺️
Bob Jencks
Bob Jencks Prieš mėn
I love LED. Good. But there is one aspect that did not make it on your chart! LEDs strobe at 60hz(here in Colorado, USA). Watch running water under an LED!! It can be a strange phenomo... phenamenu....phenomenumenum. It's weird.
Bob Jencks
Bob Jencks Prieš mėn
@ElevatorMan5482 ElevExperiencing Productions of course!
ElevatorMan5482 ElevExperiencing Productions
ElevatorMan5482 ElevExperiencing Productions Prieš mėn
Not all though. Smoothing capacitors in newer ones reduce this significantly
life mantra's
life mantra's Prieš mėn
Yaa it's weird
life mantra's
life mantra's Prieš mėn
**Phenomenon*
Musical Rainbow
Musical Rainbow Prieš mėn
then you should actually break your tesla coil and throw it into garbage if you don't like CFL bulbs
life mantra's
life mantra's Prieš mėn
Tf? Are u offended?😂
Ratchet the Wusky
Ratchet the Wusky Prieš mėn
"Used by morges, Butchers and Psychos." *turns slowly to look at my lamp-* "I just like being able to see-" xD Heh It also doesn't have a lamp shade b/c it makes it darker. That's not helping my case-
Cool Panda
Cool Panda Prieš mėn
LIGHT!!!!!!!
Jòsurr Madhawk
Jòsurr Madhawk Prieš mėn
Damn... I need to get some LED bulbs
Herman Wooster
Herman Wooster Prieš mėn
You're a light guy and so I have a light question. I have an old-school lamp that takes 50/100/150 watt incandescent bulbs. When I look for a 3-way LED that can produce an equivalent of 50/100/150 watts, I can find it but it costs $25 for only ONE BULB. Surely there's a better option than this?
Metal Master
Metal Master Prieš mėn
Did he just go a whole video without shocking himself???
Metal Master
Metal Master Prieš mėn
if he didn't repeatedly say "THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL VIDEO" there probably would have been world war 3 in the comments section.
Farless Than
Farless Than Prieš mėn
Me: *Use Neon light*
10 F 15 Mathusuthan Venkatesan
10 F 15 Mathusuthan Venkatesan Prieš mėn
3 options, a. dislike b. not like c. all of the above
Dorky Sparky
Dorky Sparky Prieš mėn
I helped setup a rally for Trump and he and his his staff insisted we use HID lighting, idk why, probably what he was used to on the Apprentice. Like LEDS, they are pretty daylight colored(cool/blue), but the bulbs for HID's are super toxic, nothing about what he said made sense.
terrablade boss
terrablade boss Prieš mėn
maybe so he looks less orange
Tritium labs
Tritium labs Prieš mėn
Him: I might loose a bunch of patreon patrons because of this. I’m pretty sure this attitude to science is part of the reason they support you
Yellowhead Amateur Radio Assn 2017
Yellowhead Amateur Radio Assn 2017 Prieš mėn
What you didn't add in was the affect of the radiant heat energy and also the effect of temperature. In a temperate climate, like Canada, the bulb's heat output can be a good thing, at least indoors, in winter. It also creates more of a "warm" environment. On the other hand, fluorescent lights such as in cold temperatures really suck when it comes to light output. Any idea what the energy cost is to manufacture the different light types; eg, cost to the environment of mining the materials? How about the light energy produced versus cost, compared to gas lights, candles, etc.? When the power goes off, then what?
Filipe Aguiar
Filipe Aguiar Prieš mėn
They should put red lights in microscopes and infrared for Xrays pictures...
Machinery Way
Machinery Way Prieš mėn
What about recycling? How much energy it takes and how complex it is to recycle different types of bulbs? How much energy is needed to produce all of the electronic parts inside LED, to mine all of the rare elements? Plastic bulb is better than glass??? Aren't plastic "bad" for the enviroment??? The only drawback of incandescent bulb is heat that most of the year in most of the country we need anyways and will burn some kind of fosil fuel to get that heat instead...so is heat/infrared necessarily bad thing?
Machinery Way
Machinery Way Prieš 29 dienų
@Game and Code Yes, there is infrared It's heat, plain old heat. And source of heat in our homes is often needed to make it comfortable to live in. And heat from electricity is cleanest of all, except the sun itself. You, as alive person, output over 100W of heat, so it would be better for earth if we replace you with some AI robot that will be way more efficient. So in other words the only drawback of old classic bulbs is it makes lots of heat, but cheap as dirt, simple to make and made out of very eco-friendly materials. LED bulbs only advantage is they make less heat(still produce heat, especially cheap overloaded ones), but multiple times more expensive than classic, very complex to make from scratch, very difficult to recycle, containing potentially hazardous elements and ofc plastic.
Game and Code
Game and Code Prieš 29 dienų
@Machinery Way what? I'm talking about incan bulbs releasing lots of infrared.
Machinery Way
Machinery Way Prieš 29 dienų
@Game and Code NO, modern white LEDs use Aluminum galium nitride (blue) with Cerium doped phosphor coating (that yellow stuff you can see inside when looking closely) to convert UV and blue into white-yellowish spectrum. There is also use of other coatings to further adjust wavelength such as manganese doped potassium fluorosilicate.
Game and Code
Game and Code Prieš mėn
@Machinery Way yeah like infrared?
Machinery Way
Machinery Way Prieš mėn
@Game and Code what about LEDs...gallium, indium, aluminum, arsenide...? Solder (Sn, Pb...) Classic bulb contains: glass, volfram, steel and really nothing else. All three very easy to separate and recycle. Also there is no way to beat full spectrum of incandescent bulb, therefore CRI.
Gabe Demarco
Gabe Demarco Prieš mėn
i love you
SACHIN
SACHIN Prieš mėn
is this a political video?
Mika Rajala
Mika Rajala Prieš mėn
Huh, I wanted him to make a spectrum analyzer from a toilet paper shell, CD and some tape... It actually works!
SPS4SMB
SPS4SMB Prieš mėn
Nice
davutz
davutz Prieš mėn
for trivia... people do realize that trump's uncle John Trump helped invent the first million-volt X-ray generator along with Van de graaff, and helped pioneer early radiation therapy...
Tyrsz
Tyrsz Prieš mėn
@ElectroBoom Hi, the spectrums you showed between 5:50 and 9:40 are the raw sensor outputs. Ideally you should have used an integrating sphere and calibrated the spectrometer, fiber and sphere using a reference lamp & spectrum. The absolute irradiance tab would have given you the true results. Nevertheless, a good educational video!
Rainbow Griefer
Rainbow Griefer Prieš mėn
“Is that how people like my videos by involuntary muscle twitch? Euuughh” -Mehdi Sadaghdar 2020
Laurie21
Laurie21 Prieš mėn
Now that LEDs are so popular it is time to make the dimable LEDs more prevalent so the dimmers which are in every home in North America and over Seas can be used once again. Hopefully before the pots go bad which will boost dimmer sales. A plot?????? Hhmmmmmmmm
MZ Alshevano
MZ Alshevano Prieš 2 mėnesius
I love 6000
K B
K B Prieš 2 mėnesius
Being efficient doesn’t even have to be an environmental thing, it’s sane use of resources... Why would U prefer an centuries old technology that wastes Energy and damages your own bill, dies within less of a year of use and has crappier light quality over an cheap, way more efficient, and way more lasting alternative, that is widely spread around the world nowadays.
Cyberjack Παλ
Cyberjack Παλ Prieš 2 mėnesius
Me: oh a vid about light bulbs Electroboom: THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL VIDEO!!!!!!!!
NicholsZiegler
NicholsZiegler Prieš 2 mėnesius
The only down side with LED is that they are damaged easily by fluctuating voltage
rootbrian
rootbrian Prieš 2 mėnesius
I have a large box full of incandescent light bulbs. xD THREE bags full of LED bulbs. One small wooden basket of CFL bulbs. I don't need to purchase any for many decades to come. ;)
240 Volts
240 Volts Prieš 2 mėnesius
CFL sucks, I hate LED even more so. LED bothers my eyes. We had new LED street lights put up, and those things are so damn awful with their blue spectrum. LED is a big no for general lighting, I don't care about the cost savings, its about the warm quality of light I like about incandescent.
Positronium
Positronium Prieš mėn
Yeah your city probably had some very shitty LEDs' to save on budget. However good LEDs' are not more expensive so I would invest in those, they last longer, more energy efficient, and don't generate as much unnecessary heat.
A Sound Side
A Sound Side Prieš 2 mėnesius
8:13 nice wave spelling
Pabitra Hazra v10.0
Pabitra Hazra v10.0 Prieš 2 mėnesius
Panasonic 18 watt LED BULB . Suriya, SYSKA , Helonix, Bajaj , magik,
Icie Flake
Icie Flake Prieš 2 mėnesius
Lets not talk about Flashlight development and a pocket lamp goes up to 1200Lm and you can open it up and tweak it, change the LED to max out at 2400-3800LM Fenix Light's are best even better when tuned up =). but don't aim in someone's eyes as it's a bunch of LM in a concentrated beam
Александар Мијовски
Александар Мијовски Prieš 2 mėnesius
4:16 ENOUGH TALKING,let’s talk some more XD
Russwig
Russwig Prieš 2 mėnesius
Problem is, most manufacturers of inexpensive LED bulbs overdrive the LEDs to maximize brightness. This shortens the lifespan of the LEDs and causes higher premature failure rates. This is also true of the small power supplies needed to produce the DC that powers the LEDs. They are often in confined spaces with poor heat dissipation causing premature failures. Overdriving the LEDs also produces more heat which compounds the problems for the power supplies. Buy LED bulbs made by the most reputable manufacturers. You may pay more up front, but they will last longer and make the cost savings of using them better. And, if you live in Dubai, buy the Philips bulbs made especially for you, as they are designed to thwart both of the problems I have outlined above. Check BigClive for more on the Dubai bulbs.
Barbara Harrison
Barbara Harrison Prieš 2 mėnesius
The mature seat endogenously mark because notebook definitely search but a therapeutic error. normal, vigorous perch
Jon Williams
Jon Williams Prieš 2 mėnesius
Incandescent lights if used should be limited to areas that spend most of there time needing light and heat
Alex Morrison
Alex Morrison Prieš 2 mėnesius
I bet many people didnt click on this video because they're brainwashed and dont want to see anything negative about their favorite president
Ima goo man With goo
Ima goo man With goo Prieš 2 mėnesius
He should have tested arc lights
terrablade boss
terrablade boss Prieš mėn
@Ultra01 as f*ck i wanted to make it rhyme
Ultra01
Ultra01 Prieš 2 mėnesius
bright as truck but inefficient
Travis Gallagher
Travis Gallagher Prieš 2 mėnesius
I thank your for your political opinions and think you may have a future here at CNN. I’ll have my people reach out to your people. Cheers
HyperionStudios
HyperionStudios Prieš 2 mėnesius
GOOD
Martin Manning
Martin Manning Prieš 2 mėnesius
Very funny and educational stuff! If you normalize cost as $/Lumen-hour, and power consumption as W/Lumen, LED's look even better! Consumer Experience Factor is almost 62!
Mo
Mo Prieš 2 mėnesius
what music @ 0:09 ?
Akram Alhinnawi
Akram Alhinnawi Prieš 2 mėnesius
I just spasm a like, you sir is a genius funny 🤣🤣🤣
Orion
Orion Prieš 2 mėnesius
THANK YOU MEHDI
really reasso
really reasso Prieš 2 mėnesius
The decisive valley experimentally argue because fox regularly treat apud a obscene battery. hungry, well-groomed hair
Chance Butler
Chance Butler Prieš 2 mėnesius
theres more than 2 sides to everything you see in the news. him taking anything BUT the "vac", him being that orange for the first time ever was him saying to get the sun, and maybe even we should realize how much theyre blocking it out. when he says believe in god and ull be fine hes referring to roman canon law. learn your rights, or what your rights used to be anyway.
Chance Butler
Chance Butler Prieš 2 mėnesius
also this is why he doesnt pay taxes. more than two sides to everything you see on the news. also why there was such a big deal about abortion constantly, and prefixes on names etc. the world isnt binary. there is more than 2sides to everything
Chance Butler
Chance Butler Prieš 2 mėnesius
theyre completely supressing how the sun is anti viral, how much theyre blocking it out and how all the different reasons and methods they use obviously contradict each other. not so bad if u prepared to be gased i guess. oh ya vitamin d isnt the only thing we need from the sun. but also even just "vitamin d" is multiple vitamins, and a hormone at least
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